So glad you wrote this!!! It has been a huge topic on my mind the last few years as I learn more about how the heliocentric religion and how the physics definitely is NOT settled. Your opening Beatles quote is something that really helped me feel more comfortable with the notion they are lying to us - the insiders and occultists always leave clues and mock us in the songs/culture they produce. The Red Hot Chilli Peppers another band with similar truth in plain sight - "Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement"...
I'll stop back and add some more perspective and references that I find are key that may be helpful to others that hopefully find this article.
There is simply no more emotional reaction I find then trying to discuss this kind of thing with normies - such is the power of their indoctrination and dogmatic beliefs most simply can't handle it!!!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm glad this exploration resonated with you.
Though I pause to assume there is a "they" that is lying to us, I appreciate your mention of The Beatles and Red Hot Chili Peppers' lyrics, which do provide interesting tangential perspectives.
You mention that you have done some research. I'd love to hear more about the critical perspectives and references that you have found.
I understand the challenges of discussing these topics with those with different beliefs. I hope the comment section provides a space for respectful dialogue and further exploration.
I need to stop back and add more here, but for now, I've recently been really impressed by this video explaining the concept of the moon being a plasma projection of the PLANEt we live on:
It builds off the work of "Vibes of the Cosmos" on insta / YT - which just seemed to intrinsically have merit but I didnt grasp pr validate it entirely until the video above
I get where you're coming from, Steve, but the post has nothing to do with the Flat-Earth Psyop. Given the widespread loss of faith in institutions, it's no surprise that people can get sucked into compelling arguments that go a bridge too far. For many, the geocentricity argument I have presented here is also a bridge too far, but at least it has professionally agreed upon merit—the math and science work. I would give it a second thought if Flat Earth theories had similarly agreed upon professional, scientific values. Until then, I'll stick with proven science.
Ohhhh, ok, I can sometimes read substacks too fast and miss the nuance.... so just to be clear, you're saying you're onboard with considering Geocentrism and it's possibility? And geocentrism in your view is a globe earth where the universe/sun/et al rotate around it?
Before my last comment(s) I hadnt watched "The Principle" you finished with in the article. I have done so now just in case I was missing something in that. I had seen/heard most of it before in various materials.
I'd caution on your faith in institution and flippant belief of "proven science" but I'd like to get more understanding of your viewpoint first. Another simple question for me to understand your position might be - do you think man landed on the moon?
Yes, Steve, that's correct, primarily. The physicists in The Principle outline the math, history, and plausibility succinctly; a still motionless Earth at the center of the universe that revolves around it.
A few other supportive videos within the post are also worth exploring.
I have very little faith in institutions these days, and I harbor no such reflexive belief in proven science, as it were. I do not believe "flippant" was the proper word to imply such belief. Thanks for the caution, though.
I like to take a slow, cautious, common-sense approach to truth-seeking that involves several steps of careful thought and inquisition.
Apart from cross-checking empirical evidence, who is making such claims, their motives for doing so, and verifying the sources of evidence surrounding such claims, one should also place any implied truth claim at the center and frame it with critical questions.
I have done an intense dive into the Flat Earth Theory. Granted, it's a fascinating topic that can easily sway the average viewer into a religious-like belief. On its face, many of the arguments are compelling to the uninformed.
The beauty of the Principle movie is that it scientifically bridges the gap in an accepted, plausible way between the fantastical Flat Earth theory and the possibility that the Earth and universe may not behave as we all believe.
Here are some suggestions for study and arguments questioning the Flat Earth theory.
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1st. An artist inquires about applying the Trivium to reconcile whether the Earth is flat.
Insofar as the Moon Landing goes, I mostly agree with Joe Rogan's take. Rogan, who was, in his words, "balls-deep" into the matter for years, concludes that if you're going to pick the most exciting and plausible conspiracy theory to hang your hat on, the Moon Landing would be it.
Thanks for this. I'll take a look at what you've provided here...
I'm just on the journey to understanding and am trying to connect with people with knowledge like yourself. I may not ultimately agree with you in the end, but I'm genuinely trying to get information and particularly from reputable sources so as to form an opinion.
I may slide some info your way which may have you reconsider. Most recently the role of our Azimuthal Grid of Vision and modelling that supports it corrects much of what was considered "impossible" for flat earth cosmology working and reflecting what we experience and see.... interesting times to be sure.
Lastly, you're correct. No need for "flippant" in my previous comment. Strike it from the record... I'm here for courteous discourse :)
So glad you wrote this!!! It has been a huge topic on my mind the last few years as I learn more about how the heliocentric religion and how the physics definitely is NOT settled. Your opening Beatles quote is something that really helped me feel more comfortable with the notion they are lying to us - the insiders and occultists always leave clues and mock us in the songs/culture they produce. The Red Hot Chilli Peppers another band with similar truth in plain sight - "Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement"...
I'll stop back and add some more perspective and references that I find are key that may be helpful to others that hopefully find this article.
There is simply no more emotional reaction I find then trying to discuss this kind of thing with normies - such is the power of their indoctrination and dogmatic beliefs most simply can't handle it!!!
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm glad this exploration resonated with you.
Though I pause to assume there is a "they" that is lying to us, I appreciate your mention of The Beatles and Red Hot Chili Peppers' lyrics, which do provide interesting tangential perspectives.
You mention that you have done some research. I'd love to hear more about the critical perspectives and references that you have found.
I understand the challenges of discussing these topics with those with different beliefs. I hope the comment section provides a space for respectful dialogue and further exploration.
Thanks again for your engagement.
I need to stop back and add more here, but for now, I've recently been really impressed by this video explaining the concept of the moon being a plasma projection of the PLANEt we live on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFd-1Hs0_ok&t=81s
It builds off the work of "Vibes of the Cosmos" on insta / YT - which just seemed to intrinsically have merit but I didnt grasp pr validate it entirely until the video above
All the best.
I get where you're coming from, Steve, but the post has nothing to do with the Flat-Earth Psyop. Given the widespread loss of faith in institutions, it's no surprise that people can get sucked into compelling arguments that go a bridge too far. For many, the geocentricity argument I have presented here is also a bridge too far, but at least it has professionally agreed upon merit—the math and science work. I would give it a second thought if Flat Earth theories had similarly agreed upon professional, scientific values. Until then, I'll stick with proven science.
Ohhhh, ok, I can sometimes read substacks too fast and miss the nuance.... so just to be clear, you're saying you're onboard with considering Geocentrism and it's possibility? And geocentrism in your view is a globe earth where the universe/sun/et al rotate around it?
Before my last comment(s) I hadnt watched "The Principle" you finished with in the article. I have done so now just in case I was missing something in that. I had seen/heard most of it before in various materials.
I'd caution on your faith in institution and flippant belief of "proven science" but I'd like to get more understanding of your viewpoint first. Another simple question for me to understand your position might be - do you think man landed on the moon?
Yes, Steve, that's correct, primarily. The physicists in The Principle outline the math, history, and plausibility succinctly; a still motionless Earth at the center of the universe that revolves around it.
A few other supportive videos within the post are also worth exploring.
I have very little faith in institutions these days, and I harbor no such reflexive belief in proven science, as it were. I do not believe "flippant" was the proper word to imply such belief. Thanks for the caution, though.
I like to take a slow, cautious, common-sense approach to truth-seeking that involves several steps of careful thought and inquisition.
Apart from cross-checking empirical evidence, who is making such claims, their motives for doing so, and verifying the sources of evidence surrounding such claims, one should also place any implied truth claim at the center and frame it with critical questions.
Some questions we need to ask are as follows:
1. What are the antecedents of the claim?
2. What are the consequences of the claim?
3. Are there any objections to the claim?
4. Is there any support for the claim?
5. Apply the Trivium Method of learning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivium
I have done an intense dive into the Flat Earth Theory. Granted, it's a fascinating topic that can easily sway the average viewer into a religious-like belief. On its face, many of the arguments are compelling to the uninformed.
The beauty of the Principle movie is that it scientifically bridges the gap in an accepted, plausible way between the fantastical Flat Earth theory and the possibility that the Earth and universe may not behave as we all believe.
Here are some suggestions for study and arguments questioning the Flat Earth theory.
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1st. An artist inquires about applying the Trivium to reconcile whether the Earth is flat.
https://youtu.be/-sYdg19ZTHU
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2nd. The Flat Earth Psyop
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kixjMXK4EoDU/
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3rd. This professor, Dave from YouTube, has a five-part series debunking the Flat Earth; here is the first. I'm sure you can find the rest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bHqBy92iGM
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And, in closing:
Insofar as the Moon Landing goes, I mostly agree with Joe Rogan's take. Rogan, who was, in his words, "balls-deep" into the matter for years, concludes that if you're going to pick the most exciting and plausible conspiracy theory to hang your hat on, the Moon Landing would be it.
https://youtu.be/qefElgEv-H0?t=668
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I hope all that helps in your journey to understand better the crazy upside-down world we live in.
Thanks for your interest and engagement.
Thanks for this. I'll take a look at what you've provided here...
I'm just on the journey to understanding and am trying to connect with people with knowledge like yourself. I may not ultimately agree with you in the end, but I'm genuinely trying to get information and particularly from reputable sources so as to form an opinion.
I may slide some info your way which may have you reconsider. Most recently the role of our Azimuthal Grid of Vision and modelling that supports it corrects much of what was considered "impossible" for flat earth cosmology working and reflecting what we experience and see.... interesting times to be sure.
Lastly, you're correct. No need for "flippant" in my previous comment. Strike it from the record... I'm here for courteous discourse :)